In this phone call recorded shortly before last Friday's "Finale" of The Great Reset, Eric questions Ernie about why he's ending The Great Reset, and what comes next.

Ernie argues that his "original sin" while co-founding The Great Reset was focusing on Ambition and Technique. While not bad in themselves, this led incurably to Arrogance and Law, rather than Humility and Grace. He believes the only solution is to start over (after a 3 week hiatus) with Something Different centered on the cross of Christ.

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