In this short but soulful episode, we drop in on a reflective moment between friends—early mornings, honest updates, and a surprising insight from a 5:00 AM call.

Drawing from Fight Club, the punchline hits home: “The first rule of Christ Club is—you can’t explain Christ Club.”

What happens when the most meaningful truths can’t be put into words? How do we share an experience of Christ that defies articulation—but transforms us anyway?

Tune in for a glimpse into a conversation that’s part update, part confession, and part invitation into the mystery of knowing Jesus.