You
Go, let's see how this works. Yeah it's

Robby Butler
Right from your phone

You
supposed to just

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
transcripts in summary so maybe I don't even need script. We'll see.

Robby Butler
Right I've looked at. I've used it a couple times on one particularly long call. It didn't transcribe but it's done fairly well into notes.

You
Good Anyway Anything burning or should we just ask Jesus what he wants us to talk about?

Robby Butler
Well, that means just ask what are you feeling right now?

You
What am I feeling right now? Mine is groggy. I was an all night prayer meeting and then slept for four hours afterwards so groggy but happy is probably the the best.

Robby Butler
Yeah, I can imagine feeling groggy after being up all night that's that makes it

You
OK Yeah, I'm so

Robby Butler
And then sleeping off schedule and yeah, go ahead

You
Hurry How are you feeling?

Robby Butler
I am feeling very encouraged. I was talking with Tyson Bradley of the week ago. He mentioned the book I hear you,

You
Eight

Robby Butler
which is just a short book, but it's focused on the concept of validating the emotions of others and how we do that. And it's open my eyes to how I invalidate just so reactively or I've been in my marriage and as I was reading this, I was thinking This is the book I'd like to offer and go through with you. If you're not drawn to it goes beyond empathy he has a chapter on empathy as a step toward validating, and he also talks about how reflective listening. Can fall short at movement to validating, but it can also fall short and feel very mechanical, and I think the way that I've tried reflective, listening in the past just come

You
Hey

Robby Butler
across as detached rather than validating

You
Yeah, I will. Thanks thank you for that

Robby Butler
Oh yeah, and I'm actually in the midst of

You
confession.

Robby Butler
this conflict going on with my son I've it's given me a new tool for saying yeah it's very reasonable that you feel mad at me right now and I'd be mad if I were in your situation but we need to do what we need to do so

You
Hey yeah so I will hold it offer intention, and it with some other things that I've been on my heart but we yeah

Robby Butler
I'll send you though I'll send you link you can look at it whatever means

You
Yeah, we start OK cool I think it's good to be a check in first and then with each other and then check in with Jesus

Robby Butler
Yeah, let's do that

You
All right, we just wanna commit this time to you however long it is and McDonald's that you are the host of this meeting. It's not me or Robbie or the iPhone. It's recording this it is you and we wanna accomplish whatever your agenda is which we know will draw us closer to you and to each other. Because you are a god of connection and so we'll just take a minute to listen to see what you want us to share or ask about what you want us to know and what you want us to do

Robby Butler
Well, that sound appears every so often maybe but I don't know if you get

You
Interesting to find out and transcript about

Robby Butler
It won't show the script it may show in their

You
Sorry, there's another meaning of the word transcription which is the recording to disc, but I don't know about a word for that because recording that's probably a simpler word Anyway, I think I'm ready whenever you are

Robby Butler
OK, yeah maybe you wanna go first

You
Yeah, so I guess first is a but I felt like I should share a confession which was that when you say oh I have this book I wanna go through with you. I had an immediate reaction.

Robby Butler
Yeah, OK

You
Because we've got the fear of being stuck in a program that you're intellectually analyzing, but I felt God saying that you know this is different that you are definitely engaging emotionally with this topic not just an intellectually and not saying that I have to do this or not, but just saying to A honor you for moving in this direction and confessed my reservations so that they're not in the back of my head. I also have a second

Robby Butler
Yeah Yeah

You
confession that's been on my mind today from the all night per meeting, but I can hold space until it's appropriate to share that.

Robby Butler
OK great yeah no I totally appreciate your reaction. I have that reaction often when people offer me books and you know I buried you with suggestions for things that you oughta look at so that makes perfect sense.

You
Thank you, so did you

Robby Butler
Yeah Well, I'm so in it besides this book I also went through the social covenant stuff that Joe Joel

You
For Taylor, yeah

Robby Butler
Yeah, and particularly struck by the

You
Yeah

Robby Butler
sixth step apology process, and felt like there are a number of things backed up in my relationship with Jackie that it would be constructed over that I owe her that kind of apology for that with a sense that Why the best efforts to apologize have not really touched your heart so this morning actually wrote out as I was journaling and our father An apology on one particular point just to kind of get it clear in my mind and to have it at the ready if the moment presents

You
Hey

Robby Butler
itself at one point, I thought of texting her and letting her know that I And something I'd like to apologize for if there's a good time today, but the day is kind of spun off into dealing with my sons Lack of control and eating and the difficulty with bring down his weight and now he's up another 5

You
Hey

Robby Butler
pounds Trying a different approach and with him and she's concerned that the passenger verse Sercombe to her mind is don't exasperate your children minus The God disciplines, though he loves her as a father discipline as he loves and so were navigating that How do we work that out between us?

You
Attention Yeah

Robby Butler
She also surfaced Perception that I too easily defer to her and that I somehow think that Favor with the Lord, but she doesn't want to be in that position of just deciding things and so we're at the start of negotiating renegotiating that we make major decisions though

You
We negotiating how you negotiate

Robby Butler
Something like that

You
Interesting are you done all right let me just take a moment to reflect on that and make sure. Hopefully, we'll see.

Robby Butler
With validation

You
So a couple things I'm hearing is that there's an ongoing tension with your son and that that led to a new tension with your wife which sort of interrupted your attempt to apologize for things in the past so I guess the positive spitting you may get to practicing the present rather than having to go back and remediate the past, which is interesting The other thing I know that I observed is that both of you framed this from with a biblical verse rather than a

Robby Butler
Right

You
preference or value like that's just interesting

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
To observe and This does resonate with something that I was going to confess so maybe this is a good Segway

Robby Butler
OK

You
Right is that I had a conflict with my wife. It was a fairly minor one about a financial decision. And one of the things that we've been, you're not even talking about this idea of evil and are people evil until we identify who is evil is that self an evil thing to do and and all that and we've also been having these discussions I don't think this has been on the podcast about identity exchange and went to work on identity. We probably touched on it last time.

Robby Butler
Rain

You
And so one of the things that struck me this is a great prayer meeting. It is a lot of confessional time and declaring God greater than different aspects of our lives. Last two hours were all GenZ because they're the only ones who are still awake but early is fully awake And energetic, but the thing that I realized is my kids gave me for Father's Day when they were like I don't know my son was like 10 so I was like you know eight or 10 years ago his dad is responsible And I realize that I don't just have a desire to be responsible. It's part of my identity to be responsible. And that I'm the responsible one that I'm considering all the angles I'm thinking about the future, etc. and then when my wife has a different desire, which is which is part of her identity, this leads to traumatic conflict

Robby Butler
OK

You
Right, whereas if it's in that and so I realized that I'm feeling this is the last beef related topics actually, this is relevant I think I shared that we were praying for a breakthrough at our Indian church about what is the the store he wants to tell there and then we have a Mother's Day sermon about comfort And it was a really powerful sermon because I'm used to in our American churches I've been doing in the

Robby Butler
Right

You
past we have a very sac and like the mother's love is so wonderful. It's a picture of God's love and this was much more balance is like there's a maternal comfort which is nurturing and caring, and that is absolutely part of God's character. We see Isaiah

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
there's a eternal aspect of comfort which is security and provision. You know which is also part of bad spirits, but raised that there's something more divine from fruit than just just which is all we typically see in the church And I was processing that the friend of mine of the guys that was just obvious that we all need to go like well. Maybe it's to you, but that's not obvious to me and this idea of just presence coming alongside directly like when the word comforter is one comes

Robby Butler
Right

You
alongside as a shoulder to lean on. You do not feel like a mother caring you and not above you like a father

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
managing you.

Robby Butler
Right

You
Because this raise this question, the observation is that the most angry I ever saw Indian congregation like the American congregations can get riled up when we preach on like live to your husband

Robby Butler
Right

You
Put in like people right over that, but then we got fathers. Don't exasperate your children. We had a rebellion not this church, but but it's like my whole job as a father who exasperate my children. What are you talking about you know and that is literally the cultural expectation on us.

Robby Butler
Yeah, yeah

You
And and The The confession is that I hold responsibility as part of my identity, and when that because of that when I feel sorted then I get triggered and so the idea that pot funds are not merely you know make a lot of promises that are you know in our psyche although that's true but but or maybe this is the definition of these are false

Robby Butler
Great

You
identities that I am inhabiting and that's why two things one that's why I become ungracious Right I get defensive intense rather than curious and welcoming and empathic is when I have an identity trigger. The second thing is that's the thing that usually triggers me is when somebody else has an identity trigger is right and this is the idea we talked about way back with Janet about Grace as un mirrored anxiety. And so The thing that I'm processing was last week actually think about the system of comfort and working through different things is that at the root of this is this need to be perceived as worthy at least in my own eyes and that I associate that with competence and strategically thinking things through And that is something I need from what happens in the outside world right as my kids are

Robby Butler
Right

You
behaving as you know finance as a well managed of projects are on schedule that gives me a sense of worse, and because my worth is tied to that rather than God and what he says about me, it's Vulnerable in a bad way worse than a

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
fragile is probably the right is that I have

Robby Butler
OK

You
fragile worse and when something I put in my worth that is fragile is at stake in a situation. Then my brain plays all sorts of affordable tricks on me like I'll ignore

Robby Butler
Ha ha

You
facts all not hear people whatever. And then they react badly and I get upset with them correcting reacting badly, but I'm blind to how I am operating out of the false identities and so force the situation is gonna go badly, but I'll always be badly for me or ways that I feel bad but it's always like this. Some of the basic premise I think is a opera out of all false identity we may solve the superficial problem, but we're not advancing the kingdom of God.

Robby Butler
Right

You
And so this was shocked me because I always think my problem is megalomania inflated self image, and realizing that a deep level I feel worthless unless

Robby Butler
Right

You
You know and that that might be at the root of this is the last bit was this is where I just identify which people

Robby Butler
OK

You
It's like you know I see your problems as pathetic with mine is affect and I don't want to take your side or understand your point of view because I just think it's wrong

Robby Butler
Yeah, yeah

You
And this inability to accept others is assigned entity is locked onto something other than Christ

Robby Butler
OK

You
So anyway, that was the confessional I'm not sure exactly how that released your situation but I'll just put that out there

Robby Butler
Don't have to relate you covered it felt like so much and I thought I tracked with you through all of it, but I am not sure I'm clear on what if you were distilled to the main point it may be that last point that underneath the sense of high self-esteem that you have that may be a false Self covering reacting or covering over a sense of low value and a fear of that being exposed, which I can relate to, if that's indeed what you were trying to communicate

You
Yeah, I think I was just trying to narrate the journey. I've been on but let me just take a moment because I had a

Robby Butler
OK, yeah

You
thought, but I've decided if it's appropriate to share.

Robby Butler
Sure

You
Yeah, I think this is Jermaine. Let me share it because I want to go with. That is the way you described your attention with your son definitely mirror is the paternal maternal comfort distinction that we were working through as the

Robby Butler
Right

You
church is that

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
it is true these are biblical commands.

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
Right that's the father is supposed to provide boundaries and structure and provision and it's true that the mother is

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
support you is supposed to provide acceptance and nurture and support

Robby Butler
Correct

You
But The Wonder is if things don't so I guess this is the wonder is that there is a third option which is this divine presence that had the word that keeps coming up Is transfigure Right as thing that changed there's a way to be present that changes me in a way that changes the situation And without needing to Resolve detention one way or the other It transform without without My friend price External tension that we seen right is like oh would like you know with your son you could do option or option D

Robby Butler
Right

You
and the idea is that the external tension is a flute to an internal tension and that once we

Robby Butler
Right

You
resolve or address the internal tension, then we see a different way And it may be similar actions, but a very different emotional context in which the external tension gets resolved, but but if we're locked

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
into an identity, based framing that is false, it is inconceivable to even imagine that third option much less implement it

Robby Butler
Yeah, well

You
And I was curious whether that resonates with you at all

Robby Butler
My mind to what Jamie talks about going as far as his training will carry him and then thank God you know, do you have a better way to do police work to enter a domestic dispute so we don't have to keep coming back here you know, but actually changed transform situation And what I've the shift this morning with my son is it's continuing with trying to find a pattern of discipline or goals that he could be required to meet in order to have the TV or Internet, but to surround us with a different context of you are my beloved son I began saying that to him And inviting him to hear Jesus, you have to listen to Jesus for what he wants to say to him, and to give him hugs and express affection to him and to look for fun things to do with them and then and this, as I'm reading about validating to look for those what government calls the bids for attention And those this in this book, he relates those to that for validation either a agreement with what I'm feeling excited about or curious about or sad about whatever the feeling has to you know step into that feeling in a sense of empathy And affirm it even if it is or something, but if we don't, we can't, we don't have to agree with the basis for the feeling to agree that the feeling is reasonable given their perspective so I my wife was out trying to Urge was not to be mad at me and I stepped in rather and since week and that you know it's quite reasonable for you to feel mad at me about this. I'd be mad if I were in your situation and that Jackie left the room and I think

You
Yeah

Robby Butler
frustrated with me for interrupting. Opportunity to apologize for later glad to have a

You
Yeah

Robby Butler
apology

You
Yeah, I know it feels like the mistake like one kind of matter to handling it

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
better but at least you're handling it differently than in the past and trying to establish new arms you know

Robby Butler
Right

You
and OK, that was a thought. Let me just take a moment and see if I can frame it properly. The thing that I see in Jesus that was not obvious about God before

Robby Butler
Ha ha

You
Jesus is him taking on our sentence

Robby Butler
Ha ha

You
Right and if we skip over the cross and just look at the teachings of Jesus and look at what happened in the act, it's easy in fact probably come to overlook this, but this

Robby Butler
Bright

You
idea that When we look at someone and we see what they're doing wrong

Robby Butler
No

You
The temptation is to come from a position of strength saying I know what's right you don't let me fix you Or come in from a position of tolerance it's like OK don't worry about that. I'll just clean up the mess.

Robby Butler
No

You
And This is interesting so in the middle is something like acceptance, like seeing the person and seeing the midst of the wrong But then in the cross or something even more than that, which is identification And I've had moments like this with my son where I see him doing something, but really annoys me and then I realize the reason annoys me is cause I have no grace in that area I only have

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
And that there's something unhealthy in me that is possible since he's my son that's probably where there is a thing I see unhealthy, and him and you know where I can say. You know that my son is older and

Robby Butler
Yeah Yeah

You
fairly aware and so it's safer to do this you know since he's been around 14 is that like son? I just wanna confess that I see this thing in you that you probably got from me and I want to confess that to you and you know. Let you know I'm seeking grace from God for healing of this area of my life because I don't want you to be mirroring these past behaviors

Robby Butler
Right

You
And inviting him into that experience of brace You know this is the name you gave me right fellow seeker right

Robby Butler
Yeah, yeah

You
and to me this is an interesting third way Connect the dots between the maternal or paternal responses to Revis behavior on the part of others is the fellow seeker inviting people in

Robby Butler
Yeah Beautiful

You
And the punch line for me about the whole story is that realizing where I have these fanged and conflicts with people where I see them you're consistently engaging in self-destructive behaviors that the reason is that I just identify with them. I see them as doing that and I don't see myself doing that and the belief that if I dig deeply enough in my own understanding, sorry in my. Self image I will discover a corresponding lie. It's like oh now I see all these dynamics could've been bothering me other people's lives. I have a deeper understanding that this is God giving me hints that there's something deep that I'm not seeing about myself about who I am about to God is what the universe is like.

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
And that is this This false identity which could trickles into and someone prayed for me this last night is that I really would experience the blood of Jesus in the shame over this area cause usually this is where something happened in the past that you know it's probably too young to have any rational control over, but I felt responsible for and therefore I got traumatized and I said OK I'm gonna make a solemn vow. I will never be in that situation again.

Robby Butler
Ha ha

You
And that opens the door for a cosmic attachment or you know Titanic stronghold because I've define my identity on this thing that is not the cross

Robby Butler
Yeah, yeah, but it's it's not It feels really exciting. I think on your end as well as mine. This God is leading us forward as that relate to what you're feeling or what

You
Yeah, there's a there's a we talk about the ecstatic union before right or cathartic events is like yeah this thing that was driving me crazy cause I felt like such a horrible evil and intractable problem and other people being irrational and messed up and also this feeling of powerfulness I had to help them underneath that is like oh wow this is a

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
clue to extraordinary gift that God wants to give me about myself

Robby Butler
Right

You
And my relationship with him and experiencing Christ and as I receive that, the things that I once saw as tragic I now see as exciting. It's like oh this is an opportunity that I can bring price in and set people free in a way

Robby Butler
Young

You
that. They will They will experience even if they don't understand and I have this this

Robby Butler
Great

You
compulsion to try to make people understand what's wrong with them

Robby Butler
Right, right?

You
Which does not wouldn't be any friends it does when sons

Robby Butler
Right

You
occasionally right you're the paternal people who need that but that's a

Robby Butler
Right

You
dangerous place to be In that, you know you'll accumulate toxicity and so but yeah, this is really exciting to realize that there's actually this thing within me that I've

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
been alienated from That I had that is not experience the blood of Christ, and that were in the

Robby Butler
Nothing

You
process of bringing that to light and allowing Christ to heal that and this is sort of unlocking a new superpower

Robby Butler
Yeah, yeah, so do you distill that of the place that was separated from Christ into an identity statement I am or I have been fill in the blank

You
I mean the false identity is I am responsible

Robby Butler
OK

You
The easy answers I am forgiven, but I think what before I put him into words I think I need to capture the experience right as that's why I need messenger

Robby Butler
OK

You
journaling around this idea of

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
comfort And you know have a narrative picture of what I mean by this and then summarizing it with words I think that's the

Robby Butler
Right

You
the Some of these things it's they're easy to see, and therefore the easy to label but most of these things by definition of things that are really hard for me to

Robby Butler
Right

You
see and so doing the journaling

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
exercise to What's the right words for this? But it's somewhere between visualize in articulate illustrate I need I need

Robby Butler
OK

You
to Illustrate the thing that I have not been able to see and then I can label it.

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
Otherwise this is the general point is that we experience proceeds culture proceeds language And trying to use language to change culture to create experiences backfires for these kinds of things and so capturing the experience is the next step, but hopefully by the next time we talked, I'll have work through it and found some more language that reflects that

Robby Butler
Yeah, well it seems really encouraging you feeling encouraged

You
Yeah, I think that was weird. I was thinking about the morning as I'm just waking up. I just feel encouraged. I feel like I'm seeing the route of you know personal struggles, relational struggle, social struggles. In a common thread, the ties back to Christ and that's always exciting intellectually but then as I start stepping into that

Robby Butler
Right

You
that's exciting emotionally because there is a sense of connectedness And that I feel closer to my wife, my boss To people that you know I get annoyed with on the Internet for their political views is

Robby Butler
Right

You
like like oh yeah now I can see myself and seek Christ in those situations where before it felt, we're trying to work for this last time That was often I was often sensitive to setting up these

Robby Butler
Nothing

You
offenses that I were sent that I was highly sensitive too, and I was like this is intolerable. This needs to stop. And going from there too, oh, this is grievous But Christ can heal it

Robby Butler
Right

You
All right, is that a good place to Goodwill to our tongue clothes?

Robby Butler
Let's just say, Jesus is there anything else you want to remind us of that it would be worth fitting in this conversation? I think for my end just I've read the first half of the book in the last hour so in the book as I hear you by Michael Sorensen, the surprise, simple skill behind extraordinary relationships Validation he wrote this cause he said he couldn't find a book that actually focuses on validation for the mention it and it is as I'm

You
Hey

Robby Butler
processing it. It seems to fit well with and compliment. What Jamie is been exploring and pursuing Jamie Winship that we've talked about. The leaving someone to from their emotion to what's the a thought or the lie behind the emotion if it's negative and

You
Yeah

Robby Butler
integrating government the bids for attention And relating in a very conversational, helpful, illustrated way the impact of first not acknowledging and affirming bids for attention But also Becoming curious expressing curiosity about what the actual feeling and what the person and recognizing that when we interact most often people sometimes people just need some information but most often there's a desire to connect and a bid for attention that we miss and a mistake and so we have disappointed No pain in these bins for attention And anyway, it's it's I'm. It's stirring a lot of thinking of me and I'm whether whether or not you look at the book you'll be hearing more about it so all you need.

You
Yeah Yeah, cursing me that when you offer a book that I should interpret that as a bid for attention and honor the bit for intention, even if I don't accept the book

Robby Butler
Yeah How to say yes that sounds very interesting. What are you finding or whatever?

You
Yeah, but yeah, but even more maybe even asking Jesus what is Robbie feeling and what is

Robby Butler
Yeah

You
he looking for and will be at

Robby Butler
Yeah, and you can help me help help me by asking me what I'm feeling one of the one of the tips

You
Yeah

Robby Butler
enlisted towards learning to empathize with others is just identifying what you're feeling and that's why I just read that that's why I start off the conversation, why I did all right

You
Yeah Yeah, no I appreciate that. I'm sorry. I don't know if this is a good idea in appropriate idea but I was just wondering have you ever confessed to your son?

Robby Butler
Confessed in the sense of telling the truth of apologizing, I'm not sure what you're thinking of

You
Yeah, I'm not sure either. It was just a thought that came to mind.

Robby Butler
here OK, I was. I was thinking about apologizing to my wife about interrupting him saying you know that must be.

You
Right to your side

Robby Butler
Yeah, well I was. I felt like I was doing that and I was in the way that I'm feeling stirred right now when I interrupted my wife and said.

You
Siri

Robby Butler
It's perfectly understand why you feel mad and I feel mad too. If I was in your position, I'm not

You
Right that's

Robby Butler
sure.

You
that's I felt more like empathy and confession

Robby Butler
Yeah, well I'm not sure I need to hear from the Lord about what specifically to confess or what the confession would be

You
I was curious for whether you ever have before if you recall actually doing any confessional time with them or as a relationship has been such for that didn't seem appropriate

Robby Butler
There's nothing that comes to mind

You
OK

Robby Butler
I recall doing with other kids with others of our kids and I imagine that I've done it but nothing so yeah

You
Yes Yeah, he said it was just interesting. Thought is this. I noticed that it's a phase transition right in the relationship and I got I don't know what your son is that if that's appropriate or not, but it was just an interesting thought that came to mine when I was asking, is there anything else that was left on and then the other half of the talking in first is there anything that's been left

Robby Butler
Yeah Brain

You
unsaid by Jesus or others and then everything that needs to be

Robby Butler
Brain

You
forgiven And I guess I wanna ask forgiveness for I guess we choose your language right to reacting to the flexible task and not seeing and not having the of a fear separation scarcity mindset rather than just seeing honoring bids for attention from a point of acceptance so I wanted to confess that as well as ask your forgiveness

Robby Butler
Yeah, OK Cell For our listeners, all sticks of them or whatever that would you be interested in letting me review the steps that Taylor recommends for an apology

You
I'm not sure if I want to apologize

Robby Butler
OK, so I just asked for forgiveness without apologizing

You
I just wanted to confirm for me. The confession is just like I think the apologies. I'm sorry I hurt you. The confession is this is where I know the Winship sense of this is where am I thinking was wrong and I want to acknowledge

Robby Butler
Yeah, yeah yeah good yeah, well certainly I forgive you

You
that. And for me, that's an important thing cause it brings brace in Christ and the situation is just speaking our

Robby Butler
Break down

You
traumas and our reactions getting them on the table. I find a surprisingly liberating, even if it doesn't by itself appear to solve the presenting problem so I guess that's also why I asked the question around your son all right should we close in prayer?

Robby Butler
Yeah Yeah, she is. Thank you for your

You
Do you wanna pray first?

Robby Butler
love other spirit for being with us for your faithfulness that you continue to level of more and more into the likeness of the image of your son. All things do work together, even our failures for the good of us who love you and her not to be conformed to your image image Encouragement and excitement to what you're doing in our lives in our homes and our households in that work we just welcome all that you have for us. We receive all that you have for us and we race this journey of walking with you and a little children with the father, trusting that you know every detail of what. Ahead of us and he'll be with us every step of the way

You
I thought I just thank you that you love us and you love it when we meet together around you I just think people are Robbie and his friendship and that you're helping us to grow in our emotions on our love for one another as you walk the street you think it works gaining some context and practices and skills and language They really center these conversations around you and what you're doing in our lives and as we do that, I feel us growing closer to each other and to you and even to ourselves I just thank you that we're on that journey and that as we continue pressing into you that you will address all these problems in the world to break our hearts and that we will see your glory revealed in Jesus name I pray amen

Robby Butler
Bless you man

You
All right, I love you, man. Thank you.

Robby Butler
Love you too have a great day

You
OK, bye